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Yes - we all know it is a business, but the lying and cowardice by some colleagues that we put trust in does sting. Best to to flip the negative energy from the betrayal into positive growth energy and cherish those friends/family inside and outside of the Deloitte organization that stood by us while we got sold out at the worst possible time - not so that Deloitte could survive, but rather in a desperate attempt to protect partner unit values.
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Further proof that I was lied to by my function's leader. The morning of 10/15, he said he didn't yet know how the layoffs would affect our team, if at all. Yet, that's the day I got laid off (a mere 3 hours later). My separation memo was dated 10/15 (that day), but in the footer, it says "Rev. 10/03/08" so it had to have been prepared about two weeks prior, and in order for it to have been prepared, my name (and the names of my colleagues who were also let go) would have had to have been supplied to HR on or before THAT day.
Again, I'm not angry that I was laid off. In fact, I partially expected it. What I'm angry about is the lying that led up to it. So unnecessary!
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So anyone who isn't living under a rock knows that layoffs are happening firm wide. We don't know when or if it will be our turn at any day now. For those who do know that someone will be laid off, how would you address it to that person who will be affected? For those complaining about being LIED TO and calling the messengers COWARD, how do you honestly expect to be told? Do you really think it's easy to tell someone? Do you really think that they should give you enough prep time to pack your things?
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No - not easy to tell someone. But at least be somewhat truthful. For example: "economy sucks and we have to reduce headcount. Your number came up. Fair or unfair, right or wrong I have been ordered to let you go". Early on in the covert process the layoffs were disguised as being driven by performance which left many folks unnecessarily dazed and confused. Anybody who has kids knows that it is best to be honest with them when deliverying bad news. Coming in the back door unneccesarily screws with peoples minds and makes the situation worse. That is the point. No need to twist it or try and rationalize bad business techniques. |
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Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:23 pm
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| I read on the Dept. Of Labor website that some severance agreements specifically do not allow for the ex-employee to seek unemployment benefits. Does anyone know if Deloitte's severance agreements have such a stipulation? |
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:57 pm
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| Hey all, I am international student got offer in Business Tech analyst to start july 2009, and I need h1-b I need this job because of family its 65k plus some bonus, question is should I sign, its in their midwest office, is this dangerous? I also have offer from 2 of the other consulting company do the same thing E&y, KPMG should I sign with them? |
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:26 pm
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Hey all, I am international student got offer in Business Tech analyst to start july 2009, and I need h1-b I need this job because of family its 65k plus some bonus, question is should I sign, its in their midwest office, is this dangerous? I also have offer from 2 of the other consulting company do the same thing E&y, KPMG should I sign with them?
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Take the best offer for you. I'd assume all firms have the same issues right now. In all likelihood though, Deloitte probably won't let folks go before a year. After a year, all bets are off. |
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Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:35 pm
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| consulting had 10%+ layoffs in Oct, nov |
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Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:28 am
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Do you have a source for this information or is it based on your understanding ?
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:53 am
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Federal practice hires former member of Congress as director, 7-figure income.
Va.'s Tom Davis Joining Deloitte Firm
By Tim Craig
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, November 15, 2008; A05
U.S. Rep. Tom Davis, who is retiring after 14 years in Congress, announced yesterday that he has accepted a job at Deloitte Consulting, a global financial services company with a significant federal contracting practice.
Davis (R), the one-time chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, will not be lobbying for the firm but will be a director helping to oversee its Washington operation.
"They have a huge accounting practice, and they are global, and it gives me a good platform for the kinds of things that I am interested doing," said Davis, 59, who will draw a seven-figure salary.
Davis, who also plans to teach political science at George Mason University and do some "commentary" work, will be leaving Capitol Hill next week, or whenever Congress adjourns.
On Nov. 4, Fairfax County Board of Supervisors Chairman Gerald E. Connolly (D) was elected to his seat. Davis said he has already put Connolly's chief of staff, James Walkinshaw, on his payroll to facilitate a smooth transition.
Davis will be the latest member of Congress to find work in the lucrative consulting and lobbying businesses after they leave office. But Davis is quick to point out that he will be returning to the line of work he performed before he launched his political career.
Until 1991, when he was elected chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, Davis was general counsel for PRC Inc., a McLean-based technology contractor.
"This is not a revolving door for me," Davis said. "I am basically doing what I did before I went into government."
Gene Procknow, principal and managing director for Deloitte Federal Government Service, said many federal agencies have contracts with the company. Its largest contracts are with the Defense Department, Homeland Security and Health and Human Services, which uses Deloitte for "technology innovation and government transformation issues," Procknow said.
"He has been a leader of reforming government and a leader in transforming government, and that expertise is right in the wheelhouse of what we do to help our clients," Procknow said of Davis.
National Journal reported yesterday that Davis will get an annual salary of $1.5 million, but company officials said that was inaccurate. About his salary, Davis would say only it is in the seven figures.
After being elected to Congress in 1994, Davis rose through the ranks of the House Republican leadership and became a fierce advocate for the Washington region's interests on Capitol Hill. He pushed for voting rights for the District, despite opposition from other Republicans in Congress.
From 1998 to 2002, Davis was chairman of the House Republican Congressional Campaign Committee, developing a reputation as a frenetic fundraiser who helped the GOP maintain its majority.
In 2003, Davis became chairman of the Government Reform Committee, launching investigations into steroid use in baseball and pushing for reforms of the procurement system.
In 2005, Davis passed up a seven-figure job offer to head the National Federation of Independent Business. Instead, he began laying the groundwork to run for the U.S. Senate this year, doling out hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions to GOP candidates in Virginia.
But after the state party decided to hold a nominating convention instead of a primary, a decision that strengthened the candidacy of former governor James S. Gilmore III, Davis decided not to run for the Senate.
When he announced his retirement in December, Davis said he wanted to make more money in the private sector. Davis said he entertained several job offers and decided on Deloitte because of its worldwide presence.
"I am basically going back to my corporate roots," he said. |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:13 am
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| For anyone let go recently, the hiring of Tom Davis is just more motivation for getting over Deloitte ASAP. His "seven figure" salary is a vaguely disguised cost of gaining influence within our federal government to suckle on a golden tax-payer nipple. Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte! |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:55 am
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"...suckle on a golden tax-payer nipple." That's hilarious!
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For anyone let go recently, the hiring of Tom Davis is just more motivation for getting over Deloitte ASAP. His "seven figure" salary is a vaguely disguised cost of gaining influence within our federal government to suckle on a golden tax-payer nipple. Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte!
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:19 am
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Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte!
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How is this related to the lay offs? If the hiring was well thought out then he sound be making it rain like Pacman Jones at a Vegas strip club and help reduce the number of folks that need to be laid off down the road by bringing in more business. |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:17 am
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Yeah and if Davis has a slow first quarter to start his Deloitte career, look for more layoffs to cover his big salary.
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Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte!
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How is this related to the lay offs? If the hiring was well thought out then he sound be making it rain like Pacman Jones at a Vegas strip club and help reduce the number of folks that need to be laid off down the road by bringing in more business.
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:27 pm
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| Damn, how many employees will it take to cover his seven figures salary? Most directors don't even start out that much! |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:27 pm
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Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte!
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How is this related to the lay offs? If the hiring was well thought out then he sound be making it rain like Pacman Jones at a Vegas strip club and help reduce the number of folks that need to be laid off down the road by bringing in more business.
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wow! here comes our expert Password1 again with his characteristic cliches.dude add some value.. go and spend time on due diligence for your counselees, atleast help them as you are not helping anyone else in this forum  |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:41 pm
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Sell out the little guys and buy into easy money federal projects. Good riddance Deloitte!
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How is this related to the lay offs? If the hiring was well thought out then he sound be making it rain like Pacman Jones at a Vegas strip club and help reduce the number of folks that need to be laid off down the road by bringing in more business.
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wow! here comes our expert Password1 again with his characteristic cliches.dude add some value.. go and spend time on due diligence for your counselees, atleast help them as you are not helping anyone else in this forum
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I'm sorry, what value did you just add? I made a valid point that the layoffs that have occurred and hiring in someone for a kings ransom are not related and that there may be a benefit in hiring him if it can lead to more work.
I see logic and reason works for some idiots on this board as well as it does with my infant son. Thanks for contributing to the forum Kim (or is it Doug? or some other random name?) What level were you before you got laid off and why are you so bitter any way? I wish you luck in your new life goal to make Deloitte pay for laying you off. Let me know how that turns out for you. |
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Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:44 pm
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| What the hell..can't we just all get along? Let's keep the conversation to the topic at hand. |
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