I got fired ~ Deloitte Consulting Forum

Principal Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 163

Its funny you say that. I know few people who have been managers since they came into the firm as analysts. Their pay is pretty much shit since they've received the usual %8-%13 raises and they don't seem too happy.

Its funny, they'll make around $85k as a manager while the firm hires in "Hot Job" people for $90k+ at the consultant level!

When I hear these stories, I think the same... it could be a blessing for them as well. I think you really have to like consulting though, and my guess is that they enjoy what they're doing.

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I read an article on stevepavlina.com called "10 reasons you should never have a job" and two weeks later, I had quit the firm. While the article is mostly tongue-in-cheek, it hit pretty deep for me. We're mostly doing what we do because it's safe, because our family and friends approve and because we don't know better. But really, there's a way to work where you truly are inspired to be the best you can be. A way to work where you are emotionally and intellectually invested in the quality and excellence of everything you do.

At Deloitte you essentially have no stake in the affairs of the company. If the company did well, our raises might go up a few percentage points... what's that.. 2-3k? Not life-changing and definitely not enough to warrant caring about anything you do. Like
Peter said, it'll only make you work hard enough to not get fired. I also left for a startup and I have enough equity where if the company does well, it will significantly change my financial situation. Just the excitement of knowing that I have that kind of control (while knowing that I also have to stomach a lot of risk) is exciting in so many ways that Deloitte will never have a chance to offer.

Deloitte and other non-equity driven corps are primarily pyramid schemes where reviews and salary is just the way to keep people invested and caring about the pyramid. Pretty much the only people who do will are those that stay long enough to get back the rewards of the scheme.

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I don't know you, but I DO know what it takes to be fired from the firm, and the fact that you were tells me a lot about you.

I know only one person who was counseled out, and she sucked bad...

I know someone who was fired for questionable expenses, so it's not always for incompetence. Though to tell you the truth I don't know which is worse.

Principal Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 164

At manager level, you can get fired for your metrics being too low. It doesn't mean you had to do necessarily have done anything bad (other than not selling/managing enough work). Two unlucky years or your niche becoming irrelevant in the marketplace could be enough to lose your job.

There are a myriad reasons why someone could get fired, in any company. Surely, sometimes its a matter of something that might be out of their control. Often, however, it is with something that is within their control.

Being fired from Deloitte does not mean that you are incompetent, though it may (and probably does) say something about your character, depending upon the circumstances with which you were fired. Now, for those that it might reflect poorly on, I feel sorry for you. In fact, for some of you, I pity you. On the other hand, if your life is better now and you're giving something back to the world or some other organization in a better way, then great, I'm glad you've redeemed yourself.

Which makes me wonder... I wonder what happens to some of the incompetent people. I presume they just trudge on over to some other organization and if they're lucky, maybe find a new job in which the excel. Often, though, I bet they just continue sucking in their new job.

Which reminds me of relationships... makes me think of that site (the name eludes me now) that allows ex-gfs and ex-bfs to lay down the dirt about one another so that future bfs and gfs can read the insider crap on someone. Seems like a pretty biased site (i.e. negative views only), of course, but interesting in the respect that somehow it could potentially weed out bad potential future spouses or girlfriends/boyfriends. For instance, if you've had several exes and they posted bad crap about you (And it was true) it could benefit future people from choosing not to have a relationship with you because of what they read about your past relationships on what they wrote. Then again, it really isn't fair since it might not be true or you've improved yourself and are no longer the 'bad' person that your exes claim you to be... Anyways, just makes me think of a what-if scenario for professionals in the job world. What if they had a similar site? How scary would that be?

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My guess is that you're worthless.

Analyst Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 6

My guess is that you have a fragile ego.

And that you haven't figured out this whole message board thing.

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.... a negro?? That would explain it!

Dont work with black people. Period.

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I seriously doubt that.

Thanks for playing.

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